14E/ Have we forgotten to design for consent while we’ve been busy building for SSI?

Have We Forgotten to Design for Consent While We’ve Been Busy Building for SSI?

Wednesday 14E

Convener: John Phillips

Notes-taker(s): 

Tags for the session - technology discussed/ideas considered:

Consent, ToIP, SSI, Mental-Models

Discussion notes, key understandings, outstanding questions, observations, and, if appropriate to this discussion: action items, next steps: 

Link to slides used to generate discussion: https://docs.google.com/presentation/d/1-noJdzoiMql0ozfdUi4MVGX7IFDXT75cKeA1Zj3A2kk/edit?usp=sharing

Meeting notes to be generated

Zoom Chat:

09:03:46 From Bryan Pon : Another tactical use case is persistent consent, I.e. the idea that holder grants consent to the verifier for XXX amount of time (usually the length of a business contract or relationship between holder and verifier).

09:16:43 From Ashley Snelgrove : and consent is a gateway to what the user wants (some service or product)

09:22:28 From Neil Thomson : Need governance mandated auditing of data use...

09:23:55 From Ashley Snelgrove : part of the problem also lies in the tendency for the masses to not care. The “I’m not concerned about privacy because I have nothing to hide” argument which also translates to consent

09:24:35 From Vic Cooper : https://www.evernym.com/blog/a-call-for-reciprocal-negotiated-accountability/

09:25:29 From Neil Thomson : Like requiring a car buyer to personally examine all the specifications of a used vehicle as to if it is safe.

09:26:39 From Neil Thomson : Need a UL to create safe consent packages for different apps and uses of classes of apps

09:27:23 From George Fletcher : Could we have a "consent request" and a "consent credential"?

09:34:26 From Trev Harmon : The power differential is certainly an issue in some cases.

09:40:47 From Neil Thomson : Data about us may be owned by us, but will not be trusted if only self-asserted. So we we are not necessarily dependent on other sources to provide our data, but we do on them verifiying it. So do we really control our data?

09:43:02 From George Fletcher : Great discussion. Thanks for setting up this session John. I need to drop.

09:43:17 From Neil Thomson : Robert on the Q

09:48:12 From Trev Harmon : Sorry if I jumped the queue.

09:50:59 From treycarl : Well said Robert

09:51:15 From Vic Cooper : Yeah, +1 Robert

10:01:05 From Trev Harmon : Thanks for the great conversation, everyone.

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