14E/ Have we forgotten to design for consent while we’ve been busy building for SSI?
Have We Forgotten to Design for Consent While We’ve Been Busy Building for SSI?
Convener: John Phillips
Tags for the session - technology discussed/ideas considered:
Consent, ToIP, SSI, Mental-Models
Discussion notes, key understandings, outstanding questions, observations, and, if appropriate to this discussion: action items, next steps:
Link to slides used to generate discussion: https://docs.google.com/presentation/d/1-noJdzoiMql0ozfdUi4MVGX7IFDXT75cKeA1Zj3A2kk/edit?usp=sharing
Meeting notes to be generated
09:03:46 From Bryan Pon : Another tactical use case is persistent consent, I.e. the idea that holder grants consent to the verifier for XXX amount of time (usually the length of a business contract or relationship between holder and verifier).
09:16:43 From Ashley Snelgrove : and consent is a gateway to what the user wants (some service or product)
09:22:28 From Neil Thomson : Need governance mandated auditing of data use...
09:23:55 From Ashley Snelgrove : part of the problem also lies in the tendency for the masses to not care. The “I’m not concerned about privacy because I have nothing to hide” argument which also translates to consent
09:24:35 From Vic Cooper : https://www.evernym.com/blog/a-call-for-reciprocal-negotiated-accountability/
09:25:29 From Neil Thomson : Like requiring a car buyer to personally examine all the specifications of a used vehicle as to if it is safe.
09:26:39 From Neil Thomson : Need a UL to create safe consent packages for different apps and uses of classes of apps
09:27:23 From George Fletcher : Could we have a "consent request" and a "consent credential"?
09:34:26 From Trev Harmon : The power differential is certainly an issue in some cases.
09:40:47 From Neil Thomson : Data about us may be owned by us, but will not be trusted if only self-asserted. So we we are not necessarily dependent on other sources to provide our data, but we do on them verifiying it. So do we really control our data?
09:43:02 From George Fletcher : Great discussion. Thanks for setting up this session John. I need to drop.
09:43:17 From Neil Thomson : Robert on the Q
09:48:12 From Trev Harmon : Sorry if I jumped the queue.
09:50:59 From treycarl : Well said Robert
09:51:15 From Vic Cooper : Yeah, +1 Robert
10:01:05 From Trev Harmon : Thanks for the great conversation, everyone.
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